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Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by bob627, Feb 16, 2003.

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  1. bob627

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    When files or folders are sent to the recycle bin and the bin is "emptied", do those files or folders remain somewhere on the hard drive and can they be permanently removed.???
     
  2. steamwiz

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    Hi bob627

    They can be retrieved with specialist programs and equipment - but to the ordinary computer user they are gone.

    the only way to make them unrecoverable is to "wipe" the file - that is overwrite the file with 11111111 then 0000000 then random 1011000101 the DOD (department of defence) recomends this be done 7 times to securely delete documents

    Programs such as "Evidence Eliminator" do this

    steam
     
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    telecom69 Gone but never forgotten

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    I noted what you said here steam,so if they CAN be recovered then they must surely still be on the computer somewhere and over time would they not fill it up?not trying to pick your brains Im just curious,I hadnt a clue they werent deleted for all time,often wondered how they do get deleted tho,just where do they go to? :confused:
     
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    No file is ever removed from your computer - just the pointers that point to that file when you click on it - when the pointers are removed this is a signal to windows that that part of the drive can be written to again.

    http://www.howstuffworks.com/question578.htm

    When a file is saved it is saved to several clusters ( say 5) but the file may only take up 4.1 clusters - the remaining .9 sectors in the last cluster are filled with random information from your memory (ram) - so even after you delete a file or wipe it - some of it may have been copied to another file as "file slack" this is how computer forensic scientists recover some of their information.

    steam
     
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    telecom69 Gone but never forgotten

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    Thanks for the info and the link steam,cleared up a lot of questions ;)
     
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    I have a new question about the recycable bin. I have two hard drives hooked up to my computer right now. One is primary, windows 95. And the other is secondary with nothing on it. Its formatted and I'm just gonna use if for extra space. Now when I click on the drive in my computer, it has a recycable bin in it. Why? and can i get it off?. Thanx
     
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    Steam is there a free program that does the same thing as Evidence Eliminator? I have tried BcWipe but it takes way to long and when used in the recycle bin it locks up and quits responding soon after I start it.
     
  8. bob627

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    steamwiz:
    Appreciate your help. Fortunately, I don't think there is anything on my hard drive needing permanent removal, but several of my friends have asked me the same question.
    Have a good day.
     
  9. steamwiz

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    Hi jbjoker

    If I might ask - why do you want to get rid of the recycle bin ?

    I have 2 hd's both with their own recycle bin icon + a 3rd icon on the desktop

    If you look in them you will see there is only 1 recycle bin and these 3 icons all point to it

    Check out this link - but be carefull and BACK UP the REGISTRY before trying anything

    http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/61/

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    Hi brindle

    I usd BcWipe a long time ago and never had any problems with it, but I have no program to do it at the moment - there must be other programs out there - I'll see what I can find

    steam
     
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