TV's influence on kids.

[CoasterFreak]

Do you think that TV influences kids? I turned on my TV and cable box (around here Comcast programs the boxes to tune to CN8). Anyways, they were talking about how TV influences kids. The way I see it, I don't think TV influences kids? What are your views and opinons on this? TV in no way shape or from influences me.

"TV doesn't influence kids, kids influence kids."

its just like that gun saying: "Gun's don't kill people, people kill people."

 

[Big-K]

The only way I can see tv influencing kids is MTV. They influence what we think of as cool etc. I hate that network. MTV2 isnt much better, but its still a step up.

Fight mtv.

 

[CoasterFreak]

I agree, MTV changes people's ways of thinking in terms of whats "in" and whats "out" But I don't think TV can make you want to go out and k!ll someone or make you want to go out and commit some crime. And when stuff like this does happen, I say it's the parents fault.

 

[lisaa7002]

"Fight MTV" Lol.... I can remember when I REALLY couldn't think of anything I wanted more than "my MTV" now I think I would shoot myself if I had to watch 20 minutes of it. That's where VH1 comes in. Its all the same videos that I watched when I first got to watch MTV. -- Well Actually "Friday Night Videos" We never did get cable at home, They have Dish now.

Anyway I always said Tv doesn't influence kids. & I firmly believed that the kids that were doing the crazy stuff, were already "off" before tv would have got a chance to lead them astray.... But now I have kids & I just want to protect them. There are plenty of non violent- really fun shows out there that they can watch without me having to worry about them. They run into violence, bad language etc. soon enough.

 

[CoasterFreak]

Even still, I don't think the violence and bad language is what is making kids this way, I think its parents not teaching their kids what's right and what's wrong. (NOT you of course lisaa, I'm sure you're an excellent parent) I think it all has to do with peer pressure: "TV doesn't influence kids, kids infuence kids."

 

[CoasterFreak]

Ok well I am out for the night, if you reply, I'll get it after school. That is unless of course EB-Games calls me and tells me that my pre-order for The Sims 2 has come in

 

[Big-K]

Here's an archived conversation by Quad The Ranter, its about a subject relating somewhat to this. Good points in it. Might be some 'bad' language. He likes to use the 'f''s' and 'p' words.

 

[TOF]

TV will cutivate pleasurable feelings that are negative. The viewer actually gets a real taste of certain feelings such as, lust, greed, vengeance, amongst a host of other feelings. Once they have actually tasted pleasurable feelings from the television, they are hooked because the pleasure feels good. They will then seek to experience more of the same in real life and/or on TV. The ultimate high is when they seek out these pleasurable feelings in real life. I have heard someone once say that TV is the Devil's pulpit.

Jerry Springer anyone?

 

[BLUE66]

I think, unfortunately, that TV has a great influence on kids, even the so called family shows usually have a smart mouthed kid disrespecting their parents ...I think most of MTV is obscene and especially abhorrent since it is skewed to teens and younger ..I think our whole "popular culture" is so degraded - I especially hate the mainstreaming of porn - I do feel bad for parents ...you can maybe shield your kids from all of this, but they still eventually have to go out in the real world..an acquaintance of mine curbed his children's TV watching to one hour a week and raised them in a religious home, yet each one of them, when they went off to college, had a crisis of faith... so total sheltering may not be the best answer. I do think that parents have to stay aware of what's what... and educate themselves on everything their kids are exposed to..songs, TV shows, movies, videos games... I'm appalled at how some remain so clueless, especially with the INTERNET as a research resource. One of my favorite sites is Screenit.com for movie reviews. The help is out there, but not all parents take the time. There really needs to be a cultural backlash against all the garbage out there, but then it's always the cry of "Free Speech"

 

[Big-K]

Ok, about the free speech thing, I've learned about in one of my classes, and its not what people think it is. There's plenty of things it doesnt protect, things like

Indecent material
Obscene Material(under 18)
Fighting Words
Clear and Present Danger
etc.

So if a person wants to say fu** on tv, its not protected by free speech.




And no, sheltering isnt good. It leads to the person being alienated, cast out of society, and is probably a big factor in people running away from home/suicide.

 

[snowbrdr24]

mtv does influence kids, I think you need to look outside the box at situations that other kids are in, many like you arn't influenced by the TV, but soem are, some have no life or guidence and only have people on TV to look up to, and some on TV or MTV arn't a good influence, kids are vulnerable and sensative while in HS and idolize and look up to many of these non-role model artists, your anlogy with a gun is pointless because your right in the fact that a gun doesn't kill the people, the people do, well kids never look at a gun as a role model, they don't idolize a gun and bow down to it, some kids are in this situation and some get so influenced and so consumed on in the music, that the music in it'self become the only thing that keeps there head up because everything else has let them down, the columbine kids ran daow the halls shooting people while saying "Manson rules!!!", and Monson later honors the kids in a local concert and mocks the lost lives of the kids, I have considered your and many other opinions on the topic, and I have been openminded in drawing my conclusions, I think you should be openminded too-Ryan

 

[snowbrdr24]

thugdout-allot if not most of it is parents not being there, but parents can't be "made present" by law and parents can't be inforced to protect their kids, so it's sad that we can't protect the root of why so many are messed up, but we can protect kids from music, and lyrics such as that of Manson, and Slayer and others shouldn't be in the presence of minors, who can easily fall in love with the lyrics that fuel their hopelessness for society and our culture, they get fueled by it, it becomes the only fuel they have and they get influenced by it, because it's all they have that encourages them and all they have that relates to them.

 

[CoasterFreak]

Very well put. I guess you are right, in a way. I still believe other kids are a "bigger" influence on kids than TV is. I've watched it happen. A new kid came to school, me and him started talking. Got to know each other. But it only took a few days when I noticed, he had been pulled into "the gang." But like you said, it depends on the child. SO there are many ways you could look at this.

 

[Rockn]

And the Manson and music theory is total hogwash. Get your facts straight and quit listening to the rantings of Jonny Lee Clary

http://www.johnnyleeclary.com/manson.htm