Two simple questions about music ripping and music CD-R's

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FusionSlayer

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First: I recently had all my cds stolen and am now having to replace them by burning copies of them. I went out and bought some "Music CD-R" to see if it makes a difference. I only bought like 30 as a trial, but haven't used them yet. So the question is, does it actually matter if you use the music specific ones or can you use the normal data CD-R's with no loss in quality?

Second: What is the best program to just rip CD's? I have an older version of Nero but it doesn't seem to like working on XP a lot. Right now I'm stuck using WMP to upload them at 192k and then burn them back on with that. Any suggestions are quite welcome.
 

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so there really is no difference between CD-R's designated for music and the rest of them? -- thanks for other answer
 

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johnwill i will go with your program cause you've helped me probably 85% of the time i've posted here in the last year

I'm really curious about the music CD-R thing...how can they label them differently if there is no difference
 
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The music Cd-rs are designed to use in those standalone CD recorders (which probobly cost as much as buying an old 600 mhz computer with a cd burner built in ;) ). If you would have one of those, you'd probobly need to buy music cd-rs for it to work consistantly. (or maybe regular cd-rs would work fine and the whole "music" thing is just a marketing ploy for more $$)
 
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The way I understand it to be is that the "Music" CD-Rs have had a Royalty Fee paid to the RIAA. Technologically there is no difference.
 
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Yep this was part of an agreement between the equip manufacturers and the RIAA, they would slap on a fee on every batch of "music" cd-r's to compensate for the projected loss of revenue from using the component recorders. The computer cd-r's dont have this problem because ostensibly these discs were supposed to be used as data storage media like floppy discs.
 
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Music CD'rs

I have to use them for my MP3 player in the car.

Using data CD's produces poor results even if I burned them at 1x.

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My case is not too common I think though. I have an original version AIWA MP3 cd player in the car.

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It seems like the player in the car just doesnt have trouble reading these "music" CD'rs.


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I always thought that there was no technical difference, but there is something going on there.





I am not a novice computer user or anything either and I have used various media for CDR and DVDR etc etc.



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Subject: [7-17] What's the difference between "data" and "music" blanks?
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"Consumer" stand-alone audio CD recorders require special blanks. See section (5-12) for details. There is no difference in quality or composition between "data" blanks and "music" blanks, except for a flag that indicates which one it is. It's likely that "music" blanks are optimized for recording at 1x, since anything you record "live" is by definition recorded at 1x (though some dual-drive systems allow track copying at higher speeds).

You don't have to use "music" blanks to record music on a computer or on a "professional" stand-alone audio CD recorder. Nothing will prevent you from doing so, but there's no advantage to it.

The "music" blanks are more expensive than the "data" blanks because a portion of the price goes to the music industry. The specifics vary from country to country. In the USA, the money goes to the RIAA, which distributes it to artists who have navigated through a complicated application process.

Some manufacturers have on occasion marked low-quality data discs as being "for music", on the assumption that small errors will go unnoticed. Make sure that, if you need the special blanks, you're getting the right thing.

(Technically, there are actually three kinds of blanks: type 1a for CD-ROM or professional audio recording, type 1b for special-purpose applications like PhotoCD, and type 2 for unrestricted use. "Music" blanks are type 2, "data" blanks are type 1a.)

Some disc manufacturers label "music" blanks as "universal use", since they will work on anything.

http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7-17



Here is one answer.
 

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I use standard 80 minute "free after rebate" CD's for my CD changer in my Audi, works like a champ.
 
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Excellent reference to the www.cdrfaq.org/faq site! Much valuable info there.

In my burning of back-up CD's, I too came across this question - all that I talked to said the same thing: there is no discernable difference between the "music" and the "data" blanks - but! always check both your own burner and player on a few burnt CD's to make sure all works good on your own system.

As to program, I'm still using Easy Creator 4 from Adaptec, on a PlexWriter 8/4/32A... yea, I know, its slooooooooooow, but, hey it works, and will upgrade when I buy new Mac this summer - and then turn this one over to the wife... ;)
 
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