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MatrixX

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When I inserted my CD-RW into my drive I had 650 mb. Now when I formatted it I have 534 MB. Is there anyway to get rid of the UDF packet writing software off the CD again? It ate 100MB!
 
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Hi MatrixX


What software program are you using - If it's Adaptec :-

go to start\programs\Adaptec directCD - CD-RW Eraser

should do the trick - can't guarantee it though - never tried it myself.

If you don't want to use it for direct cd maybe the new process you want to use it for will remove it first.

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If you want to write CD's in UDF format, that's the price you pay. If you want to use normal CD writing software for file transport and backup, you can just erase the UDF format and record them normally.
 

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I'm using Nero InCD which comes with Nero 5.5 I can't find an option to delete the udf crap. I can't start Nero with the cd "incd is accessing one or more records please eject the cd"
 

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I did a custom install of Nero, and I didn't install the IN-CD junk.
 

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You don't understand, I want to burn *.bin files on CD-RW (I can do that once when I first open the CD-RW from the package) and once a new version of linux is available, I want to delete the old version of the CD-RW and burn the new *.bin. THe only way I can get rid of the old version is to format but when I format it installs the udf reader which takes up 100MB and thus cannot burn the *.bin onto it anymore.
 

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I guess I'm really missing the point. I have Red Hat Linux here, and I downloaded the ISO images, and burned them to a CD. I could have done this with any one of a number of CD writing programs, I happened to use CDRWIN. I don't see where the UDF format comes into the picture at all!

I think part of the confusion comes in thinking you have to format the CD-RW, that's ONLY for use with the UDF driver. If you want to burn data to it in the same manner as CD-R media, just use Nero, CDRWIN, etc. and write the full 650mb of data to it.
 

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Yes I've done that. Now I want to delete the data on the cd-rw and burn another image to it.
 

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To delete the data on a CD-RW, simply select the "Erase ReWritable" option, it's under Recorder in Nero.
 
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It is not the UDF reader that is taking your 100mb. Formatting the RW for packet writing takes that amount of space regardless of whether the reader is recorded or not. A standard floppy is over 2Mb until you format it, which takes you down to 1.44Mb. A packet writing format is more efficient in terms of percent of space used. A hard drive is much more efficient in percent but you still lose some space when you format it – typically over 100Mb.

If you record to RW with mastering software the only way to reuse the disc is to do a complete erase and start over. All mastering software like Nero has an erase function.

With packet writing you need format the RW only once and you can erase individual files and folders and overwrite them. It is inappropriate IMHO for storage of anything you no longer have the source for, as the data is easy to lose.

The problem you are having is that any time you insert a formatted RW, InCD takes over the recorder and you have problems using Nero. If the RW is that important to you, disable InCD with Ctrl+Alt+DEL and then you can erase it in Nero. The full erase takes a while but should remove the formatting.
 

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I tried killing incd.exe from the task list but Nero still says incd is being used. Maybe there is another exe associated with incd?
 
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I don’t think so. Older versions of DirectCD couldn’t be disabled by ending the task and I guess InCD is the same way. I don’t have much use for packet writing and haven’t had it on my system for years. A lot of my burner problems disappeared when I removed it and I haven’t ever put it back on. I think Mt Rainier is going to replace the floppy in the future so I will eventually have to learn to live with it.

If you want to use packet writing in the future just keep the formatted RW for the purpose. Otherwise remove InCD and do a full erase in Nero.
 

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FWIW, I've never had a problem with quick erase for CD-RW media after it was formatted for UDF use, no need to do an hours worth of waiting. :)
 
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I’ve read that you should do a full erase to remove the formatting but if it works with a fast erase all the better. Were you able to get Nero to erase with InCD active? Seems there should be a way to do it but I don’t know how. Often you get a recorder already in use type error when you try to use the mastering software with a formatted RW in the burner since the packet writing software automatically starts.
 
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