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Unable To Encrypt Files & A Number Of Files Are Missing After Attempt.

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  1. jonasdatum

    jonasdatum Thread Starter

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    I have been trying to encrypt a folder using PGP 9.0.6 and Cryptainer Secure It 3.1.7.

    http://www.cypherix.com/

    http://www.symantec.com/business/theme.jsp?themeid=pgp

    What's weird is that the folder and the files within it will not encrypt and I don't know why? Further more the folder will actually be missing files. Can anybody explain to me? No, I am not setting the applications to erase files after completion.

    PGP Conventional Encryption has worked finally. I tried all the obvious stuff first like closing all non-essential volumes (virtual disk that are created and encrypted by PGP), transferring the files to another drive, etc.

    On a slightly separate issue. I did have some data corruption involving an older and separate group of files. However I deemed that to a hardware failure or a OS/Software failure. Figured it might provide valid insight.

    Update: Now my PGP conventional encryption, non .exe file generation worked. I don't understand why it wouldn't work? Going to rename the source folder and try again. MY encrypted .exe file generation with PGP should work.

    I tried again. PGP conventional encryption and PGP Zip both encrypted fine. I tried creating a PGP .exe file and again it failed and files are missing; why?

    I've done a full virus scan and spyware scan. No known threats detected that would cause this. I've done two system wipes in the past months. I've also removed, reinstalled, and or repaired the installation of both applications as is procedure.
     
  2. fairnooks

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    Scary stuff when anything out of the ordinary happens involving encryption. You might want to give TruCrypt a try instead and along the lines of trishap, make the rescue media and pay attention to every detail...you are protecting data from the occasional unauthorized attempt to access it but you are potentially protecting the data every second of every day from YOUR attempts to access it...in other words, you cannot make a single mistake and get away with it.
     
  3. jonasdatum

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    LOL yep!

    Not that long ago, I didn't follow procedure once and it cost me some files I can reconstruct from source material.

    My standard procedure is to do what I refer to a two stage backup.

    1) Lets say I have a PGP virtual disk encryption. I edited, updated, created files, etc.

    2) Next step is to create and alturnate backup in any number of ways:
    a) Depending on the type of files, I could create a PGP Zip, PGP Exe, or Secure It encrypted backup.
    b) Or I'll save the contents close the encrypted file volume - Only. Then save the encrypted file and prep for storage on backup drives.
    c) I normally do 2a and 2b.

    It is time consuming but like you said, one system error, human error, power surge, or computer pathogen and your data is lost.

    Today was a perfect example. I was backing-up some files. Had something [and I still don't know what or why] was consuming resources in the system and I had a system freeze. I learned from past experience that the encryption volume could have been compromised. Fortunately I had a backup. I simply destroyed the working file and replaced it with the backup. I also checked an alternative-form-of-encryption-backup file and it was intact as well.

    I have looked into truecrypt, but it seemed too complicated, but it is free and strong stuff. Remember, I started an entire thread about it.

    People don't realize it, but Windows 3.1 - Windows Vista all have a backup utility. Encryption or not it is useful and efficient, but I prefer my way better for now.

    If I had an encryption program that could efficiently do 'all' of this I spend the $100-200 for it. LOL, as long as I received more than one user license.

    I often have a backup drive in an alternate location. So encrypting my sensitive data is important. Also, obviously if I get robbed I don't do want people to access the data I have of myself and others.

    I occasionally find computer parts in the trash. I've on more than one occasion found drives that were not 'erased'. Nor have I found one that was even reformatted.

    LOL failing all that I'd at least use .zip file with a password. LOL. Fortunately many of the even free programs have 128bit encryption or better. Not the greatest by today's standards (browsers still use only that - sucks), but it will help deter a criminal.
     
  4. jonasdatum

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    Search my threads. We had a very deep discussion about encryption software. I have to find the link and post it on this one.

    I agree with 'all' your assessments. I an no genius on the subject, not even a professional, but I am not the village idiot ;) !

    .exe encrypted files require the decrypt app to be encoded with it.... just an example. files which with many applications considered volumes don't have the application encoded with it. Making much more secure.

    Don't worry my passwords are virtually never the problem. I have passwords for passwords for passwords. LOL.My critical codes are long, complicated, and unique.
     
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    I don't encrypt anything besides what gets encrypted for online backups, I think if I did I'd have to have a unencrypted copy stored in a bank deposit box or something like that...don't trust myself, or computers THAT much over the long, l-o-n-g haul.
     
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    I use a standalone computer for family/business/tax related issues that's in a secure enough location.
    I also don't like the idea of corruption by a hardware/software issue, so I don't encrypt anything on it.
    Stealing my computer wouldn't be much different than stealing my filing cabinet ( next to my computer :D ) that has the original paper files with much of the same data.
    But backups off site, like in my bank security box, are encrypted using TrueCrypt .
    I send sensitive info to relatives by email using a TrueCrypt container.....usually only one mb or two. That has worked out nicely.
    I've even sent CDs by snail mail with large amounts of data in a TrueCrypt container written to the CD.

    I've been using TrueCrypt about 5- 6 years or so, and never had an issue with it.

    But I've never seen the need to encrypt data before or after putting it in a TrueCrypt Container.
    I've heard of people putting a TrueCrypt container within a TrueCrypt container, but I think that's almost begging for trouble.
    To me, there seems more risk for corruption, encrypting an encryption.
     
  7. jonasdatum

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    I do virtually everything by computer and am in the process of scanning and backing up any and all of my relevant data I can.

    Some things I need to scan and shred.
    Some I need to scan and keep.
    Some I need to scan, keep, and after X amount of time shred. As far as all my 'stuff' is concerned I am 30% - 40%.

    I make it practice to scan, sort, or shred 3 to 5 documents a day as a matter of prioritizing.

    Just remember to make more than one backup copy and make sure that if you do encrypt,zip,etc that the file works.

    I really need to take a closer look at truecrypt. I've learned over the years that between 'updates' with an OS that PGP and Cryptainer may or may not work. I've gone a year or so w/o being able to use either application because the OS had issues with it. Hence why I always try to create more than one type of backup. So if I could one day access my homework folder in that PGP virtual disk, I could simply access the .exe file I made of it the other day. Keeping any potential data loss to a minimal.

    TrueCrypt would make an efficient 3rd option. From what I remember a few years ago the encryption rates go up to 500 something right? Probably more now LOL.

    I am still looking at the issues I had when starting this threat. I'll keep you all posted.

    O one other thing. I have long considered the possibility of me being injured and somebody 'might' have to backup my files. Soon I will start experimenting with PGP keys. I have posted about this in the past, but I really need to up on this. One of the things I was confused about when first reading the help files was that I can backup my keys publicly? I don't want my keys backup where anybody could download them. I have to take my time and read it all carefully.
     
  8. Stoner

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    Indeed.....My backup plans adjust from year to year when I find a new method I like, but multiple media destinations is always wise.
    Currently, my family/business computer backs up to two external drives, a flash drive and a set of DVDs.
    Last year, I had a new Seagate external backup drive fail after about 20 hours of usage and yesterday I had a DVD disc fail.
    You just never know when or what might fail and leave you without something critical.

    I even moved 'My Documents' to a different partition so that if I had to reimage my OS, it wouldn't affect my data base.
     
  9. jonasdatum

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    I have backup DVD/CDs that need to be updated. For the past 3 years I've been using HDs. My data storage requirements just skyrocket. Trying to get rid of as much paper as possible. LOL, think I have some old floppy disk that need to be reviewed and recycled.

    I have a 250gig drive that I'll have to replace. Good thing I brought it used. This what I tell people all the time. Why pay retail when I don't have to? The drive has served it's purposes. Time to move on to the next tech!

    I need to buy a firewire card for USB is useful, but slow.
     
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    Even a new drive can fail, but the probably is greater with a used hard drive and the issue is really one of how valuable is the data base that's being backed up.
    New hard drives have become fairly inexpensive.


    Be sure to check out USB3 before you commit.
    It sounds better and less expensive than Firewire, imo.
     
  11. jonasdatum

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    Right on both counts. My experience is when I buy things new they tend to fail, break, or die way before anything I buy new. There are rare exceptions in both cases.

    For example the video card I am using I found in the trash. Yet it has lasted longer than the brand new video card it has replaced.

    I remember for years how I was using a public and free version of PGP. I've had the least of my encryption problems using it. I don't I have it in my files anymore.
     
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  13. jonasdatum

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    I am beginning to transition into truecrypt as my primary encryption tool. I will be buying one or two new computers and I need an application that I can install on multiple systems at minimal cost.

    I am going to try the file transfer again. I've already done a system-wipe. I'll post the results this weekend. Hopefully the file transfer issues I've had with that one PGP volume in particular will be resolved.
     
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