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Upgrading Processor question plz help

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by PS2Lover, Feb 26, 2004.

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  1. PS2Lover

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    Hello recently I purhchased an Hp Pavilion machine from walmart.
    Specs:
    Intel 2.7GHz Celeron Processor 128k cache, 400mhz fsb.
    Memory 256 DDR Sdram
    40 GB Hardrive
    Intel Excelerated Graphics
    Don't know the mother board though.
    I want to know if I can upgrade and get rid of the celeron, and put in a Pentium 4 processor this is the specs of the P4.

    Intel Pentium 4/ 2.4B GHz 533MHz FSB, 512K Cache - Retail

    Specification
    Model: Intel Pentium 4 2.4B
    Core: Northwood
    Operating Frequency: 2.4GHz
    FSB: 533MHz
    Cache: L1/12K+8K; L2/512K
    Voltage: 1.5V/1.525V
    Process: 0.13Micron
    Socket: Socket 478
    Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2
    Warranty: 3-year MFG
    Packaging: Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)

    Now will I beable to upgrade without no problems will the mobo i have now beable to run the P4 this p4 that is. I use the comp for Counter-strike, other games, internet, music, multi tasking etc. Will I see more improvement with the p4 if I can upgrade to it, and will it be more faster for windows xp. So plz give me replys I can't stand celerons they don't have much cache, and I want a p4 plz don't tell me to get an amd xp i dont' want one for my own reasons im not a hardcore gamer.
     
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  3. Maggz

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    The mothergboard would need a Socket 478. Get Aida32 to find out what mobo you have. You can probably find a link for it in the security forums or in these forums.
     
  4. JSanguancheu

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    Do you have a model number for the PC? If so, they might have the specs and cpu limitations on the HP website.

    I'd probably try increasing the ram to 512mb before upgrading the CPU though.
     
  5. Maggz

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    Good point JSang. RAM is very important point a combo upgrade would be surely noticable.
     
  6. gws226

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    I believe the celerons are socket478's, my first guess would be that the motherboard is gonna be limited to a maximum FSB speed of 400mhz (FSB of celeron=400)
    Posting your system model # and the AIDA32 results would be helpful to go any farther.

    Regarding gaming ability. I would think that your RAM and video card situations would take precidence over the processor speed right now. Odds are you have onboard video (which is traditional much slower than aftermarket cards) and only 256mg of ram (part of which is being used by the onboard video)

    I would think a new video card and a total of 512mg RAM would be the first steps to trying to make this machine a gamer.
     
  7. PS2Lover

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    Well thank you very much for helping me I downloaded AIDA32, I will be putting more ram in it another 256 stick anyways, and the video card I'm gonna get a better PCI video card agp slot cards arent' avaiable i have no agp slot. The mobo im not sure of this what the system AIDA said.

    Name:Trigem Glendale
    Bus Type: Intel Netburst'
    Bus Width: 64-bit
    Some other stuff it doesnt' say if it has one of those slots or not it dont' tell me what slot it has.

    The Model number on the comp is
    hp pavilion a305w

    And as I said I don't want this to be a hardcore gaming machine, but I dont' like the celeron processor I want to get rid of it, if I have to get a mobo that supports that p4 tell me a good one plz, but tell me if you have nough info first to see if my mobo can support a p4 it supports intel's celeron so it should beable to support p4's too thx.
     
  8. PS2Lover

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    Wait guys nvm read this I just went to the hp site, and typed in the model number, and this is what it said about the mother board so bare with me here :)

    Feature/specification
    Trigem motherboard
    ASUS motherboard

    Motherboard name
    Glendale
    P4G533

    System BIOS supplier
    Phoenix
    ASUS/Award

    Form factor
    uATX
    uATX

    Processor brand
    Intel
    Intel

    Processor socket type
    mPGA478
    mPGA478

    Processor family
    P4 and Celeron (Willamette, Northwood)
    P4 and Celeron (Willamette, Northwood)

    Processor front side bus (FSB)
    400 MHz
    400 MHz

    Chipset name
    845GL
    845GL

    Chipset "north bridge"
    845GL, rev. A1
    845GL, rev. A1

    Chipset "south bridge"
    ICH4, rev. A1
    ICH4, rev. A1

    Super I/O
    SMSC LPC47M102, REV. VS142AV
    ITE, IT8708F

    Flash BIOS device
    FWH 4 MB
    2 MB flash EEPROM

    Memory type
    DDR
    DDR

    Memory speed
    PC2100, PC2700 messages at PC2100
    PC2100, PC2700 messages at PC2100

    Memory sockets
    2 DIMMS, 184 pin
    2 DIMMS, 184 pin

    Maximum memory
    2 GB (2 x 1 GB)
    2 GB (2 x 1 GB)

    Graphics supplier
    Intel
    Intel

    Graphics configuration
    Integrated in chipset
    Integrated in chipset

    Onboard graphics memory
    UMA/up to 64 MB shared with system
    UMA/up to 64 MB shared with system

    Graphics connector (AGP)
    None
    None

    Audio
    AC'97, integrated
    AC'97, integrated

    Audio CODEC device
    ADI1981A
    Realtek ALC202A

    Audio jacks
    Microphone, Line-in, Line-out, Speaker
    Microphone, Line-in, Line-out, Speaker

    Ethernet 10/100 supplier
    Realtek RTL8100(B)
    Realtek RTL8100(B)

    Ethernet configuration
    PCI, intergrated
    PCI, intergrated

    IDE UDMA modes
    ATA-66/100
    ATA-66/100

    Expansion slots
    Three PCI
    Three PCI

    USB ports
    Six
    Six

    USB front/back panel options
    2 front, 4 back
    2 front, 4 back

    External ports
    1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 floppy, PS/2 keyboard, PS/2 mouse
    1 serial, 1 parallel, 1 floppy, PS/2 keyboard, PS/2 mouse

    Manufacturer's options available
    Intergrated graphics, LAN on motherboard, integrated audio
    Intergrated graphics, LAN on motherboard, integrated audio

    So then will I beable to install that p4 in this mobo without no trouble, and will it run better now?
     
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  10. PS2Lover

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    Well ok if my mobo can atleast support p4's but only at 400mhz fsb speed, at the max, will the p4 2.6GHz see more difference then the celeron does? I dont' wanna put in a p4 if it's not gonna make a difference at all all I know is p4's blow celerons out of the water. And I will be adding more ram, and a better video card so don't worry about that part, im not doing that yet though maybe in May.
    Something else since p4's have 512k cache, and celerons have only 128k cache, does that make a difference? Also if the p4's fsb is 400mhz, and my celeron speed is 400mhz as I said will this make any difference at all I mean anything will programs load a bit faster, like internet, im services, games, etc.
     
  11. Maggz

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    Im pretty sure youll see a significant increase especially if your a gamer.
     
  12. gws226

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    You will see big gains in with the addition of ram and Processor. Your new bottleneck for performance will become the PCI video card. They do make good quality PCI vid cards out there... unfortunately they will no be capable of falling into the same levels of performance that you would acheive with an AGP card. With the right PCI card you should be able to play most anything though.
     
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