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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Midnyte, Sep 8, 2005.

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  1. Midnyte

    Midnyte Thread Starter

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    I am fairly new to a lot of computer modding, however I own a Dell Dimension 4600 with a 250W PSU and AGP slot. I want to add a video card for 3D gaming because the Dell graphics are integrated/onboard and don't play 3D games too well.

    I have been recommended the ati 9800pro, nvidia 5800, and geforce mx 4000 ...but know nothing about which will work for my current PSU. Please shed some light. I would love to be able to play some of today's current 3d shooters like doom3, bf2, hl2, farcry, etc... without having to lower detail and res.
     
  2. I Fix 4 U

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    Most of the cards that will allow you to do what you are trying will require a new PSU. Sorry.

    Now possibly the geforce may work but you wont get max etc.
     
  3. Triple6

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    Any mid to highend video card/system should have a minimum of a quality 350 Watt power supply. You might be able to buy a replacement power supply for the Dell.

    The Radeon 9800 and MX4000 are not in the same league; the Radeon 9800 is a great mid-range card while the MX4000 is well in the low range.

    I would check out Tom's Hardware VGA Charts:
    VGA Charts III: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/
    VGA Charts IV: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/
    VGA Charts V: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041222/ (PCI Express but worth a look)
    VGA Charts VI: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050524/ (Also PCI Express)
    VGA Charts VII: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20050705/

    The PCI Express charts have the Geforce 6600 series cards which are also available in similar AGP configurations so thats why I posted them.
     
  4. loserOlimbs

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    Well I am glad you posted this twice, maybe a MOD will combine these for you...

    Anyway, I reccomend a NEW PSU, joining the choir here I guess, and the ATI 9800.
     
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    Hi Midnyte

    I have merged your threads.

    Please continue all replies here.

    Thank You :)
     
  6. Midnyte

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    ^It was a mistake of course :) sorry.

    Hmm. I don't have a problem with getting a new power supply if I wasn't sure if everything else would automatically work. Someone told me that I would not be able to just replace the power supply with a Dell computer because the motherboard would freak. Thus initiating a computer build up which I dont want to do at this period.
     
  7. Triple6

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    I'm pretty sure the Dimension 4600 uses a standard ATX power supply.
     
  8. brite750

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    http://xtronics.com/reference/atx_pinout.htm
    check the 20-pin connector from your psu to the mobo, if it matches this then your good to go. Just buy a atx power supply 350watt min. Enermax, Antec, sparkle power. The 9800 to the best from that list, also the 6600gt is a good choice if you can spend $150.
     
  9. inuyasha320

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    the 6600gt it a lot faster then a 9800 pro.

    if you have the money, get a 6600gt

    on high quality,

    the 9800 pro will not give you good gameplay in a fast pased action area of far cry because the frame rates will be too low
     
  10. Midnyte

    Midnyte Thread Starter

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    The pin connector has to look exactly like that? ...color for color? ...cause then i'll need to make a print out and my printer is out of colors :rolleyes:

    I think if i dont upgrade the PSU ill stick with a 9800pro, if I do upgrade it seems the 6600gt will play everything pretty good. That seem like a good plan?
     
  11. CarlssonMB

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    You will need the new power supply for the 9800 pro. The only one listed so far that you could use with your current power supply is the mx4000, maybe the fx5800, im not sure
     
  12. Midnyte

    Midnyte Thread Starter

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    Should I worry at all about cooling? I'm sticking a new video card in there and didn't even think about cooling.
     
  13. Deathblow

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    If your system is already running hot inside, yes.
     
  14. loserOlimbs

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    For those out there who think you will lose sooo much by not using a 6600gt,
    http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041119/geforce-6600gt-agp-03.html

    Best place for benchmarks!

    As far as cooling goes, most, you shouldn't worry too much, most of these cards don't run too hot and won't heat up your case too much. If you end up going with the 6600gt, you might reconsider though.
     
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