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VPN and Security

Discussion in 'General Security' started by lexicon, Jul 8, 2017.

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  1. lexicon

    lexicon Thread Starter

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    Hi Friends, Greetings
    While testing free VPN service Providers. I some how subscribed for some VPN providers namely "Wind?????e" etc.
    Now the guys are bugging me with some silly 60% 70% offers if i subscribe to their service for 1 year.
    So can some one with more knowledge on VPN and Security, Please explain.
    I use internet service to check my e-Mails, Post to Tech Support Guy Support and watch youtube tutorials.
    NO PORNO, NO ILLEGAL STUFFS. Do i need a VPN ?
    The Admins at Tech Support guy can still track you down if s/he really wants even if you use one of the free VPN's.
    so, please throw some light how would VPN provide security beside anonymizing the IP and/or Encrypting the Traffic ?
    Thanks
     
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  3. zx10guy

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    These so called VPN services are really proxy services. In a nutshell, they change your public IP given to you by your ISP to one of the IPs they have. So in the end, your surfing activities look like it's coming from them. Another term for these services is an anonymizer. There are only one maybe two uses cases for these proxy services where I think it's legitimate. The vast majority of their use are by individuals that are doing stuff they don't want traced back to them; read illegal activity. These services do however use a VPN tunnel. It's between your client device and their VPN concentrator. After that there's no more encryption involved. Many people are banking these services don't log your activity but you can't be sure unless you actually audit their systems. An example of this is another thread in this subforum where someone was asking about additional scanning services being advertised by a proxy service. If this service was not logging your activity, why would they even offer scanning services for things like email if they are to keep your network traffic anonymous?

    These companies sell their services under the guise of security calling themselves VPNs (perverting the actual real meaning of the term). If you have bad surfing habits, you're going to still pick up nasties on the Internet.
     
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  4. lexicon

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    Thank you for the reply. It was very informative

    Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk
     
  5. 737Simpilot

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    Really depends on what company you go with. Especially depends on what location you use too. As well as the type of protocol and port. Many in China use one to get past their government firewall. I'm using a VPN now.



    Wrong. The Admin of this site has my E-mail which I created with the use of Tor and a VPN and I only connect to that address with Thunderbird portable and a VPN. So the E-mail provider doesn't have a record of my true IP at all. Also, I use a VPN every time I come to this site. As a forum owner myself, I know how the game is played. In fact, I used to spoof my X-forwarded for which vbulletin used to see your IP. But the Xenforo software that this site uses logs the actual IP.As to a free VPN, that's another story and I wouldn't trust those.


    You want to do some sneaky stuff? Tor + VPN + double hop to Romania.
     
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  6. lexicon

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    Hi 737Simpilot Thanks, that was informative too.
    So, should a layman conclude this way.
    VPN actually doesn't help you to secure your device's from viruses, Trojans and computer criminals out there.
    Instead it is used by cyber junkies to hide their @$$ from being caught and remain anonymous :)
     
  7. 737Simpilot

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    A VPN will NOT stop malware. All it does is provide you an encrypted connection (a tunnel) to another server that gives you a new IP address. If you're a hacker you really wouldn't use a VPN unless you know the company well, chose a good location and combine that with Tor. A hacker will just use an infect router from some poor saps house who hasn't updated their firmware. I can't tell you how many times I've seen BS from normal ISP's try to do shady things from hacked routers. And I bet these people wonder what happened to their bandwidth. Another vector is through an infected server.

    And no, a VPN won't stop a "computer criminal." That is, in the sense of phishing, etc.
     
  8. xerses

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    How about a good AV+Anti Malware+VPN(paid)
    I am very happy to be a part of this Forum:)
     
  9. lunarlander

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    AV + Anti-Malware + VPN doesn't work either. Look at the success of the WannaCry ransomware. Would bet that at least some of those victims are using good AV + Anti-Malware + VPN. What you really need is to patch Windows and your applications to stop the automatic portion of that malware. Then you need to be careful of phishing attempts. To be real diligent, you should harden your Windows. Hardening is partly disabling features that you don't use, and thus reducing your attack surface. When you have all features turned on and go on the internet, you give a hacker lots to play with. All those active features means you have to defend them all. Pay attention to those features that respond to the network. Since the attacker has to touch those in order to attack. Google for hardening Windows <your version> to find some guides on the subject. Or you could spend a month trying to disable this and that feature only to find out that it is a crucial Windows thing.

    If you didn't/couldn't apply the Microsoft patch that addresses WannaCry, you can see if you can disable SMB v1. That is the very early version of the File and Printer Sharing feature. Go to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn on/off Features > SMB v1 (only on Windows 10) That stops the worm portion of the ransomeware. Then be on the look out for fake emails, especially those with attachments.
     
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  10. lexicon

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    + Firewall
     
  11. lunarlander

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    Yes, a firewall SOMETIMES helps, when you don't have File and Printer Sharing enabled. If you share a folder or a printer on the network, then a patch or removal of SMBv1 is necessary.
     
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