w98 se, won't start, after attempt to uninstall IE

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I should have known it would be difficult or impossible to remove IE on my own !! Now it is worse, the HP Pavilion Notebook model N3150 wont boot up at all. The power light shows it is own but that's all you see, and on the secreen is all black now. I wonder if by some magical commands or a dos file if we can start a new with or witihout IE. Later I can try IERADICATOR I suspect, which is what I should have found in the first place. Duh!
OK Geeks, what is your advice to this otherwise smart persor except for this boo boo, thatnks to our teams at Microsoft who gave this junk to challenge us! Seriously, I need an opinion or consultation to get this notebook going , since I am giving it as a gift to a needy person as soon as I clean it up. Thanks in advance for the help, after you stop laughing at my stupid mistake. My foolish keystrokes was to use the control panel, add/remove pgrms, and then select Internet Explorer, which up to then looked simple. Then had to reboot and the screen froze with Windows 98, appearing till I eventually pushed the power off button. Push button to come back on and all you see is a black screen after it stared the other hardware., like the CD drive and hard drive. What next is anybody's guess. I am out of ideas?
 

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I should have known it would be difficult or impossible to remove IE on my own !! Now it is worse, the HP Pavilion Notebook model N3150 wont boot up at all. The power light shows it is own but that's all you see, and on the secreen is all black now. I wonder if by some magical commands or a dos file if we can start a new with or witihout IE. Later I can try IERADICATOR I suspect, which is what I should have found in the first place. Duh!
OK Geeks, what is your advice to this otherwise smart persor except for this boo boo, thatnks to our teams at Microsoft who gave this junk to challenge us! Seriously, I need an opinion or consultation to get this notebook going , since I am giving it as a gift to a needy person as soon as I clean it up. Thanks in advance for the help, after you stop laughing at my stupid mistake. My foolish keystrokes was to use the control panel, add/remove pgrms, and then select Internet Explorer, which up to then looked simple. Then had to reboot and the screen froze with Windows 98, appearing till I eventually pushed the power off button. Push button to come back on and all you see is a black screen after it stared the other hardware., like the CD drive and hard drive. What next is anybody's guess. I am out of ideas?
Would it be the next step to try this web page for a bootable floppy?
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/install/floppies.htm#boot_floppy
 
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Exactly what happens when you turn on the computer? Does the Win98 loading page appear? Is there a blinking cursor? Do you have the restore disks that came with your computer?
 

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The screen displays nothing. This is the case also when I insert the W98 recovery disk I created previously using the same machine a few days ago. I used my wits to check the spinnig of the CD, and Hard drive so I know they are active. Probably the floppy drive is OK, as well but there is no indicator light to judge by. I have the Windows 98 SE CD and just placing it in the CD drive does not help at this point. I have seen some erradic screen going black at boot up a couple of days ago, but the last few days it has been working fine up to the point of the reboot after trying to uninstall IE. Should I disconnect the Hard Drive for example, not knowing what the bios has for the start up sequence or what else? Other questions? Thanks a lot !
 

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I don't have specific restore disks that came with the N3150, to answer that question, and if any one has a copy of the same, please let me know where to order them from. This PC from 1999 vintage does not have a download for them from HP, and it is out of support warranty timeframe. I know the original owner personally and will ask her to search her house also if this is the only choice or hope. /This is a long shot I think/
 

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Don't bother asking HP for a restore/recovery CD. When they do provide them for new computers, they usually don't have them in stock anymore within a year or two of a computer model's release.

Unless someone can help you get going again, a Windows 98 reinstall(with the use of a fully-bootable startup floppy disk and a Windows 98 CD) may be in order.

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I will focus tonight to download from www.onecomputerguy.com/install/floppies.htm what I hope will do the trick. Any advisement on whether to reinstall W98 over its Existing INstallation, or Clean Installation (keeping the Windows and Program Files Directories, since this is not a first time install)..? I don't have data files I need for this PC to backup.
I am not sure about the drivers for the rest of the HP pavilion's hardware and don't want to wind up trying to get those elsewhere. Comments?
 

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Since the boot floppy, nor the boot CD approach failed to show anything on the lcd screen, the only possible answer i can think of is a bad LCD screen component, but I wish I was wrong. I can think of no reason the screen would work one day and not the next. Any comments to help is appreciated since I am at my wits end on this one fellow geeks ?
Remember W98 is probably to blame for this I bet!
 

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So she says you are not going to spend all night trying to fix that laptop pc again are you?
As you would expect, I turned it on to see the same conditions as before.
The green power light stays on OK, whether or not the dead battery is left in since I run this on alternating current anyway. Still the Black screen is all I get without obvious boot up, or any cursor or screen messages. I don't have tools to test the built in LCD screen so what can I do? I can try to open the cover which I hear is difficult on these HP pavilion n3150 models, but what else have I overlooked? Borrowing a stethascope from my wife I listened to the sweet sound of the spinning hard drive , and the CD drive and the floppy drive, but as earlier nothing on the screen indicates anything is being read (not that I know of). Is there hope of resetting something inside that may have jiggled loose on that trip back fom VT a week ago in the car causing this type of symptoms, which seems unlikely.
Should I take it to a specialist at this point with more tools that the hobbiest could afford to verify where the next trouble spot might be found? Is there another small switch or battery under the cover I should test with? It has a spot for an alternate monitor on back but that does not help, as I tried that before but can't get into the Bios yet. Can't boot from floppy or CD, and tried booting with out the hard drive in the PC. Advice appreciated before my wife calls the guys with the straight jackets to tear me away from this problem. (it all started when I tried to uninstall IE , from this W98 se edition). Help me Please !!! I have a few days to work on this next week since I just lost my regular job as of Friday the 13th this month! My children say Dad can fix anything on a PC. Truth is , maybe learning from everyone will help since I am lost at this point. Thanks folks !!
 

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I was reading yesterday that you can hook up, in my case, a Windows XP desktop to a laptop running Windows 98se, and treat the HP Paviion N3150 as a part of the network. My question is, this sounds easy and what I really can't do with the n3150 is see why it does not come up with other than a black lcd screen? Will in your opinion be a great help to view files on the notebook from the Desktop somehow for a log of events etc or an error I can't see otherwise? Since the only symptoms I face are the black screen at attempt to boot up, what is the advice of anyone who may know more about this approach ????
 
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removing IE would not have caused your computer not to boot or even run, you have other issues. I didn't read the whole thread, just the first post.
 
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That is odd your getting a blank screen. Since this is a glorious HP PC which only uses System Recovery Discs, your only option is to recover that laptop/PC with those discs. You mentioned that you could not find them. If you can get a hold of a full version Windows 98 CD and startup "boot disk", you can at least restore Windows at least. A full version Windows 98 CD is bootable and if your system supports booting from the CD Rom, this is also an option. You will need to first go into your BIOS setup upon seeing the HP logo and hit either F1 or Del to access it and change the boot order to CD ROM as first Boot Device.

However, the whole point of having those restore discs is to restore all the essential drivers, i.e. graphics, sound, modem, network (LAN), chipset. Not all is lost because HP should have a copy of those drivers on its website that you can download and burn to a CD for your make and model of PC. I recently restored an HP Pavilion with Windows 98 and found mostly all the drivers I needed off their website, so all is not lost. What I would do if I were you is obtain a Windows 98 boot disk with IDE CD ROM support from www.Bootdisk.com. Go into your BIOS setup and make sure the Floppy is set as the 1st boot device or your system won't boot to it. Booting from the Boot Disk will load DOS and provide an A: prompt. From there you should be able to run FDisk utility which is Microsoft's basic utility for partioning hard drives and setting them up for a Windows install/reinstall. If you get a message "NO Fixed Disks Present" after typing FDisk, your harddrive is most likely bad or the Primary Controller on the motherboard is bad and that is not good! I highly recommend you check out www.windowsreinstall.com. It's by far the best website I have seen that explains how to install/reinstall any version of Windows with graphical tutorials. If I recall, I found an excellent guide on Microsoft's website as well on how to install Windows 98 and the usage of FDisk/Format. You will need to format the drive of course before installing Windows 98 by using the Format command in DOS. The Windows 98 Boot Disk contains both the FDisk.exe and Format.com utilities.

Since the Recovery Discs are lost, this is your only option of restoring that sytem. I hope any of this helps!
 
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opps, I read more of your post and noticed that you can't even get into the BIOS or Boot from anything. If you can't even get into the BIOS, the computer is dead! Throw it away.
 
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