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WAN and LAN Conflicting

Discussion in 'Networking' started by Happenstance, Sep 22, 2008.

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  1. Happenstance

    Happenstance Thread Starter

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    Hi, hopefully you can help me.

    I have just recently switched from using a broadband modem to a wireless router for my internet.

    I connect to my Xbox 360 through my LAN but since I started using my WAN both will not work together. Once the LAN turns on my internet stops working which is my problem.
    The Wireless network does stay connected while the LAN is on but its just the internet connection that stops working.

    Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

    I am using Windows XP
    My Wireless router is a Netgear DG834GSP
    The Wireless network is using DHCP and the LAN is using a static IP. I have tried changing the LAN to DHCP but it just gets stuck on "Aquiring Network Address"
     
  2. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    Reset the router to factory defaults, change to DHCP on the computer, boot it up and post the following.

    Hold the Windows key and press R, then type CMD to open a command prompt:

    In the command prompt window that opens, type type the following command:

    Note that there is a space before the /ALL, but there is NOT a space after the / in the following command.

    IPCONFIG /ALL

    Right click in the command window and choose Select All, then hit Enter.
    Paste the results in a message here.

    If you are on a machine with no network connection, use a floppy, USB disk, or a CD-RW disk to transfer a text file with the information to allow pasting it here.
     
  3. Happenstance

    Happenstance Thread Starter

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Phil>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Phil1
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
    roller
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B7-D6-38

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-8D-44-CC
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 September 2008 13:33:52
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 September 2008 13:33:52
     
  4. TerryNet

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    I don't understand what your problem is, but having ICS enabled on your computer that is connecting to a router with LAN IP 192.168.0.1 can't be helping. Suggest you disable ICS or change the subnet used on the router.
     
  5. Happenstance

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    Well my problem is that when the LAN isnt connected, my wireless connection and internet work fine. But then when I turn either the xbox or another pc connected to the LAN on the internet will cut out.

    ICS needs to be on for the 360 to be able to connect to Xbox Live so I cant turn that off.

    Sorry i'll need a bit more explanation for changing the subnet used on the router. Im ok with most areas on computers but networking is definately a weak point for me.
     
  6. Happenstance

    Happenstance Thread Starter

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    This is the updated ipconfig /all information when the LAN is on aswell:

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Phil>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Phil1
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont
    roller
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-09-B7-D6-38
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.10
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

    Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-Card
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1E-4C-8D-44-CC
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.20
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.20
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.20
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 23 September 2008 09:52:32
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 24 September 2008 09:52:32

    C:\Documents and Settings\Phil>
     
  7. TerryNet

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    You login to the router and change its LAN address from 192.168.0.1 to something else; for example, 192.168.3.1. If the Dhcp servers address range does not automatically change to 192.168.3.something change that also.

    Your PC's ethernet connection, with ICS enabled on the wireless, should be IP 192.168.0.1.
     
  8. Happenstance

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    Just tried using the IP example you posted and it came up with:

    "DHCP Server starting or ending IP address not in LAN IP Address subnet"

    It will allow me to change the last number but not the second to last, which you put as a 3
     
  9. TerryNet

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    Don't know why, and didn't find a manual for the Netgear DG834GSP.

    The manual for the Netgear DG834 on pages 6-4 and 6-5 doesn't indicate an inability to make that type change, but manuals aren't always complete.

    Actually a better option, usually, is to disable ICS, make sure both ethernet and wireless connections are 'obtain IP auto' and 'obtain DNS auto' and then bridge those two connections. Whatever is connected to the ethernet will then get its IP configuration from the Netgear router.
     
  10. Happenstance

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    Right then I tried creating the bridge, DCHP is on for both but its not managing to find the default gateway IP so it can connect to the internet
     
  11. TerryNet

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    "It" is referring to the bridge? Please show an ipconfig /all for the bridge configuration.
     
  12. Happenstance

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    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\Phil>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Phil1
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

    Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge) 4:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-1E-4C-8D-44-CC
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.226.105
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.226.105

    C:\Documents and Settings\Phil>
     
  13. TerryNet

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    I don't know why it's not working. Did you Restart after making the ICS and other configuration changes?
     
  14. Happenstance

    Happenstance Thread Starter

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    Stupidly I hadnt restarted, just done so now though and getting the same problem and IP connections
     
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