Want to have a civil viable exchange with atheists.

mdejess

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I experience in philosophy and religion and science web forums atheists who are impossible to talk with on God existing or not.

As I just posted a new thread on local area connection reporting packets sent but not received (the trouble has been fixed -- God knows how -- it seems to have healed by itself, see this thread: http://forums.techguy.org/9065715-post1.html).

As I have already since one week ago decided to no longer try to talk with internet atheists, because -- forgive me, atheists here, it is impossible to talk with them on God existing or not.

But I said to myself perhaps the atheists in a computer forum might be different, so I decided to start this thread.

Dear atheists here, what do you say about my impression, and please I am not into any intention whatsoever to bring you to God, I just want to see whether I can establish linkage with atheists on the basis of thinking on facts and logic on the issue God exists or not.

And it has always been impossible at all to talk civilly and viably with atheists, that is my impression; but let us all observe what happens now with my attempt with this thread, in a computer forum.
 

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And it has always been impossible at all to talk civilly and viably with atheists, that is my impression; but let us all observe what happens now with my attempt with this thread, in a computer forum.
Although this topic has been presented often enough over the last 13 years, let's have a go again, eh? My first question would be: Why do you think it's impossible to talk civilly and viably with atheists? What have they done to you? :confused:
 

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I feel it has less to do with their viewpoints and more about their demeanor; and their desire to "debate".

I have met atheists and "bible thumping christians" who were really nice, and some who are just jerks.
 
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I feel it has less to do with their viewpoints and more about their demeanor; and their desire to "debate".

I have met atheists and "bible thumping christians" who were really nice, and some who are just jerks.
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Dear atheists here, what do you say about my impression, and please I am not into any intention whatsoever to bring you to God, I just want to see whether I can establish linkage with atheists on the basis of thinking on facts and logic on the issue God exists or not.
more agnostic here, but what has always bugged me about the die-hards on either side (atheist or relgious) is the absolute conviction that they are both correct. That has always made me laugh.

We, as human beings, simply cannot know what happens after we die until after we die. It's sorta inherent in the system. :)
 
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First thought is that if you consider it to be impossible it will be. I've had many great discussions with atheists/christians on and off the internet.
 

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Ditto here. I've found that the more open a person's mind is to change the easier they are to speak to. My sis will not tolerate the fact that the Earth is not 6k years old. Simply will not entertain any other theory, dinosaurs existed along mankind or were possibly planted by God, but they sure as hell didn't exist 150 billion years ago as there was nothing 6k1 years ago.
 
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In my experience it's been more of a willing to listen scenario as opposed to willing to change. I have no intention of changing my viewpoint, but I'm very interested in how others arrived at theirs. But I wouldn't expect them to change their viewpoint based on our discussion.
 

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Oh, I could totally change my viewpoint. It would require something drastic, like Jesus showing up to buy me a burger or something, but yeah, I can change. :)
 
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It's not difficult - there is no god, never has been, never will be. On the other hand neither I nor you can prove the other wrong. Plain old common sense says atheist are correct. So not sure what there is to discuss but I'm willing as long as no proselytizing. One you believe and the other you accept as true. I think massive doses of LSD would be in order at beginning.:p
 

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I'm more of an agnostic myself, but I'm sure you can get all the arguments you need from atheists by viewing the many videos from the late Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins on YouTube.
 

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