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  1. Mr. PC Doc

    Mr. PC Doc Thread Starter

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    Warning guys, don't sign up for Google's new email program, A.K.A. Gmail. it's rigged. Yes, they are offering a whopping 1GB of email space, yes, for FREE, but apparently, even after you delete your email it can still be read by any one including advertisers which could read your emails and send you spam according to the context of the emails, and also, it sounds like your going to be drowned in ads, etc etc. Google even said in their terms and conditions that Peoples emails would be read by "machines, not humans" would decide on the advertising inverts. Not so sure I even like the sound of that!

    Read from these sites:

    http://www.google-watch.org/email.html

    http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/03/google_mail_is_evil_privacy/

    http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/08/gmail_germany/

    http://www.theregister.com/2004/04/01/google_launches_email_takes/

    Don't sign up, unless you want trouble.
     
  2. izme

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    Thanks for the Heads up
    I looked at that but decided I didn't want to use it.
    Glad I didn't now ;) (y)
     
  3. valley

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    :eek: Here I thought it sounded like such a good deal! Thanks for the heads up, Mr. PC! (y)
     
  4. Mr. PC Doc

    Mr. PC Doc Thread Starter

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    No problemo, always here to inform you about good news, bad news, and help with computer problems! :D lol
     
  5. Alfie_UK

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    thanks for the info about Gmail,I'll check your links out. (y)
     
  6. Big-K

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    most people would probly turn it down anyways because of the ads
     
  7. dannyboyfx

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    G-mail uses a computer to see what you email was about then inserts ads that go along the same premises as the e-mail. If you say you took pictures, a kodac ad comes up. I think it is a good idea as a bussiness, however i will not be using it. :)
     
  8. RSM123

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    BBC News Story 13 April.

    Gmail, the planned free e-mail service from Google, could be facing strong legal opposition in California
    A draft law is being drawn up by local Democratic Senator Liz Figueroa, who calls Gmail "an invasion of privacy".

    Google is being asked to rethink the product, which plans to offer 100 times the storage offered by some rivals.

    The problem, Ms Figueroa says, is Google's plan to make revenue from users agreeing to their incoming e-mail being scanned for targeted advertising.

    Objections

    Californian Senator Figueroa describes the service as being a bit like "having a massive billboard in the middle of your home".

    The targeted adverts would use key words after scanning your private e-mail - posting adverts for pharmaceutical products, for example, if a message mentions a medical condition.

    Google's plans have already come under fire from privacy campaigners objecting to adverts linked to the content of messages, and to the permanent storage of email.

    UK-based campaign group Privacy International has complained to the UK's Information Commissioner about Google's plans to send users links to advertising based on a computer scan of their correspondence, and presumed interests.

    It also pointed out that Google's terms of service did not allow users to delete their emails permanently, despite European data protection legislation which gives users full control over their own communications.

    Current practice

    At present, users of Google's internet search engine receive advertisements for commercial sites linked to their search topic arranged down the right-hand side of their screens.

    Gmail would use similar technology to scan emails and offer advertisements.

    Other websites - including rivals such as Yahoo - use similar methods to select which banner adverts appear on top of a search page.

    Google said in a statement that it intends to work with data protection authorities across Europe to ensure concerns are resolved.

    It says the content of users' email would remain private because the process would be fully automated.

    The internet search engine company has promoted free storage for each user of the equivalent of 500,000 pages of email among Gmail's benefits.

    Google says this will enable users to retrieve vast amounts of old emails, and that it will back this up with superior spam filtering.

    Google is privately-owned, but expected to float on the stock market later this year, a deal that could value Google at up to $25bn (£14.7bn) - slightly more than listed online retailer Amazon.

    The California-based company was founded in 1998 by Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
     
  9. Gibble

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    :rolleyes:

    So they do the same things as alot of other "free" email companies, but because they are upfront about their practices people chastize(sp?) them.

    Do you really think that other email companies don't do similar things?


    Google's past practices lead me to believe they will be honest about their practices and that if they say humans won't read your emails, that humans won't be reading your emails (well, other than the intended recipients!).
     
  10. 700mb80min

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    I totally agree and will definately have a look when it comes out .
     
  11. RSM123

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    Don't shoot the messenger - just passing on what I read :)


    Rich.
     
  12. jimi

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    anyone going to agree to these TOS??

    "John Gilmore, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation warned that Google's proposed Gmail terms of service don't just "restate the law. They sweep it aside.... You agree to accept any future changes to the terms or policies. Any. If you don't agree NOW to all future changes, you can't ever use the service, even now under the current terms."

    Google can investigate your use of the service and access and disclose your information in compliance with any government request, no subpoena or court order necessary, Gilmore said.

    Users, meanwhile, are forbidden from extracting copies of their own e-mail from the service, he said."
     
  13. McTimson

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    Technicians with time on their hands and lousy ethics can--if they want--read your mail. At least Google clearly claims that no human will ever read your mail (except the recipient, of course).

    I don't get what the big fuss is about the ads...they're just the simple text ads that show up on the right side of the screen, like when you do a Google search. Would it really be that bad to have them on your webmail? The other email companies already have those ads, they're just bigger, more distracting, and have no relevance to what you're interested in. Who knows, maybe you'll see something you want on the Google ads...and for 1GB of space, can you really complain about it?

    Anyway, here's an article from people who tested the Gmail service already..
     
  14. deh

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    It is true that atleast google does tell you upfront and also true that email can be hacked by the unscrupulous but I can totally understand why people would think it is unsettling that reading/scanning email is part of a company's policy. :)
     
  15. gws226

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    Very true, infact the admin went into my account just the otherday to delete messages.... I had 5,000 messages in my delete folder... but geesh... all he had to do was ask!! :p
     
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