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We have traced the call & it’s coming from inside the house!

Discussion in 'Networking' started by ToddyJones, Sep 18, 2018.

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  1. ToddyJones

    ToddyJones Thread Starter

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    Hello,

    I recently moved into a new home and set up a wireless network, which is incredibly important for me as I depend on the Internet for my livelihood.

    Unfortunately, I am a little suspicious of some of the other people on the network and lack the ability to deny anyone else access to the system (Specifically phrased to eliminate drama or get personal in the thread lol). However, with that said, please understand that my immediate concerns are related to identitying if any threats are coming from inside of the network and if so how to recognize if anyone is monitoring my activity.

    Unfortunately, I am currently working exclusively on my iPhone and have not yet been able to set up a PC. Therefore, the only information I am able to see is from an app called “Fing”, which led me to notice an unknown device running “Apache” on port 8009. After seeing that information and realizing how clueless I am at the moment... I have arrived here in order to ask for help!


    Thanks!
    TJ
     
  2. Triple6

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    The only way to prevent any such possibility is to completely control access to the router and the network, if you cannot lock out other users then you cannot know or control what they can do now or in the future. So you either need to get your own internet connection and your own router that you can physically secure or you should not live with people you do not trust.
     
  3. ToddyJones

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    Thank you for your reply!

    I am actually suddenly fascinated with Networks!

    (....As for “Trust” I’m sure you realize life is complicated!)

    However, I would be quite curious to know your take on the Apache running on port 8009 and if it would typically be present on a new network which supposedly has no savvy tech persons....

    Thanks Again!
     
  4. Triple6

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    Apache and port 8009 suggest its a Tomcat server that is used for Application development or deployment. So someone likely has a Linux computer or server on the network.
     
  5. ToddyJones

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    Hi,

    Thank You!

    I can however assure you that no one here has a Linux.... However, I actually was lucky enough to find a few comments online, which explained that occasionally “Google Home” will show up as a Linux in Google’s Device Activity Report, which actually sounds like it may be related to your assessment of it running on 8009.

    I think as a result of your answers and a little research, I may be able to sleep tonight!

    Thanks Again!
     
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    dvk01 Moderator Malware Specialist

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    First of all you need to realise a little bit about network scanners like "Fing"
    all these scanners will show every device in range. Not every device actually connected to the network
    If I use a network scanner on my computer or mobile phone, it will show close on 200 devices & networks that "potentially" I can connect to or they can connect to my network if I or they have the correct authentication.
    BUT when I log into my router settings, that only shows the devices that are actually connected either via cable or Wi-Fi

    log into the router control panel & see what is connected & compare that to the list in Fing
    If unknown devices are actual connected & shown in router control panel then investigate. If they are only being shown in Fing, then ignore it & forget about it

    Provided you have the Wi-Fi set up with authentication ( User name & Password ) or Wifi-key then only devices that know they key can connect.

    Other devices will always show on the network using Fing & other scanners, but if they aren't connected, they are safe and not a problem for you
     
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