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Windows 98 re install challenge

Discussion in 'Earlier Versions of Windows' started by WFW, Sep 23, 2004.

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  1. WFW

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    I have run fdisk, run format and was prompted to restart. After restarting the screen goes to a description of what is on the system but it will not go any further. The cursor is flashing and nothing else happens. What do I do next?
     
  2. TOF

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    Judging by the title of your thread, I am assuming that you are trying to do a clean install. If so, did you use the FDISK command from the startup disk? In the link provided above there is a list of different commands that may be of help to you.
     
  3. js73

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    I presume you did format c: /s to install the system files. I would suggest starting all over again, run fdisk and re-format.
     
  4. WFW

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    The biggest challenge is I get no response from what I type in. The cursor is flashing but it will not accept anything from the keyboard. I tried rebooting with my start up disk and it doesn't kick in.
     
  5. Bob Cerelli

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    Are you sure the floppy disk still works. Can you test it in another computer. Is there another one you can use.

    I have a section with instructions for creating a boot disk at http://www.onecomputerguy.com/install/floppies.htm.

    There is also the generic one which you can download and extract.

    There are a lot of the DOS utilities there that don't normally get added when you make one from Win98. For example Diskcopy, Doskey, Format, More, Sys, Edit, Chkdsk, Deltree, Extract, Fdisk, Attrib, Label, Mem, Scandisk, Scanreg, Smartdrv and Xcopy.


    Also, you do not need to fdisk and reformat just to get the benefits of a clean install. Hopefully that was not the main reason for all this in the first place. There is a lot of this misinformation floating around.
     
  6. Maritimesea

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    You may be correct about that Bob,but I'm skeptical only because frankly you are the only person I have seen advocating this as being equal to a format and reinstall.Since the method of renaming the program and windows folders seems by far simpler,why hasn't it "caught on" as the accepted method to acheive a clean install? I am someone who formats and reinstalls about every six months just to acheive that new computer smell so if you can explain why the method you propose is just as good I would be most interested.
     
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    If the computer does not find the active partition within a boot drive it should return a "Non System Disk" error. That is not happening as I can read. It could be a setting in your BIOS. Enter your BIOS setup during startup and set the boot order to Floppy A:\ first, CD_ROM second, Hard drive third. Save the changes and boot with your Startup diskette.
     
  8. Bob Cerelli

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    Maritimesea, rather than being skeptical you should give it a try. I suspect others haven't recommended it for the same reason. They simply haven't tried it.

    An easy way to show why this works is to just to a clean install of Win9x and see what directories are on the computer. All that is that that Windows initially recognizes is the \windows and \program files (\progra~1 from DOS). All you need to do is rename these two directories from DOS and reinstall. Done it so many times since Win95, Win98, ME, Windows2000 and XP (the last few require only one additional step).
     
  9. WFW

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    Thanks Bob,
    I went to your site and created a new start up disk. I tried it on my computer and it worked. I loaded it into the other computer and it doesn't load. All i get is a screen describing what is on the comp and a blinking cursor. The computer will not accept any commands at all.
     
  10. JSntgRvr

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    Remove the CMOS battery for at leats 10 minutes and reinstall. The CMOS battery is a coin like battery on the Mother board. Upon restarting the computer you will receive an error (162 - Options not set). The computer will load the default values of your BIOS automativally and will continue to boot. With the Startup diskette inserted, let the computer boot.
     
  11. Bob Cerelli

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    It the computer configured to boot from the floppy first? Sounds like this has been a problem since your original post.
     
  12. WFW

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    How do I configure to do that?
     
  13. Bob Cerelli

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    You need to get to the computer's CMOS. Different motherboards need a different keystroke for this and is done before windows starts to boot.

    Some you press the delete key, some F2, some F10.
    The look at the menu for the boot options and change it accordingly.
     
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