Windows 98SE insusfficent memory

[gameman]

Hi all,
Well recently I added a gig of memory to a dual booting system (98SE and Win2000) bringing the total to 1.5gig and while windows 2000 runs fine, 98SE gives the error "insusfficent memory to initalize windows" at boot. I know about MaxPhysPage=30000 and MaxFileCache configuration settings in system.ini however I still have the issue (which is odd). When the error occurs the system shuts down . Any other possible work arounds? Thanks in advance. Here is a copy of my system.ini file:

[boot]
oemfonts.fon=vgaoem.fon
shell=Explorer.exe
system.drv=system.drv
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
user.exe=user.exe
gdi.exe=gdi.exe
sound.drv=mmsound.drv
dibeng.drv=dibeng.dll
comm.drv=comm.drv
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
keyboard.drv=keyboard.drv
*DisplayFallback=0
fonts.fon=vgasys.fon
fixedfon.fon=vgafix.fon
386Grabber=vgafull.3gr
display.drv=pnpdrvr.drv

[keyboard]
keyboard.dll=
oemansi.bin=
subtype=
type=4

[boot.description]
system.drv=Standard PC
keyboard.typ=Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
mouse.drv=Standard mouse
aspect=100,96,96
display.drv=RADEON 9600 SERIES (Omega 2.6.37)

[386Enh]
ebios=*ebios
woafont=dosapp.fon
mouse=*vmouse, msmouse.vxd
device=*dynapage
device=*vcd
device=*vpd
device=*int13
device=*enable
keyboard=*vkd
display=*vdd,*vflatd
PagingDrive=C:
REM MinPagingFileSize=524288
REM MaxPagingFileSize=716800
MaxPhysPage=30000

[NonWindowsApp]
TTInitialSizes=4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 20 22

[power.drv]

[drivers]
wavemapper=*.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=*.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=*.acm
wave=mmsystem.dll
midi=mmsystem.dll

[iccvid.drv]

[mciseq.drv]

[mci]
cdaudio=mcicda.drv
sequencer=mciseq.drv
waveaudio=mciwave.drv
avivideo=mciavi.drv
videodisc=mcipionr.drv
vcr=mcivisca.drv
MPEGVideo=mciqtz.drv
MPEGVideo2=mciqtz.drv

[vcache]
MaxFileCache=65536

[Password Lists]
PASS=C:\WINDOWS\PASS.PWL





[MSNP32]

VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll

[drivers32]
msacm.lhacm=lhacm.acm
VIDC.VDOM=vdowave.drv
MSACM.imaadpcm=imaadp32.acm
MSACM.msadpcm=msadp32.acm
MSACM.msgsm610=msgsm32.acm
msacm.msg711=msg711.acm
MSACM.trspch=tssoft32.acm
vidc.CVID=iccvid.dll
VIDC.IV31=ir32_32.dll
VIDC.IV32=ir32_32.dll
vidc.MSVC=msvidc32.dll
VIDC.MRLE=msrle32.dll
msacm.msg723=msg723.acm
vidc.M263=msh263.drv
vidc.M261=msh261.drv
VIDC.IV50=ir50_32.dll
msacm.iac2=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IAC25_32.AX
VIDC.UYVY=msyuv.dll
msacm.msaudio1=msaud32.acm
msacm.sl_anet=sl_anet.acm
msacm.l3acm=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\L3CODECA.ACM
VIDC.YUY2=msyuv.dll
msacm.voxacm160=vct3216.acm
VIDC.YVYU=msyuv.dll
vidc.DIVX=DivX.dll

[Display]

[TTFontDimenCache]
0 4=2 4
0 5=3 5
0 6=4 6
0 7=4 7
0 8=5 8
0 9=5 9
0 10=6 10
0 11=7 11
0 12=7 12
0 13=8 13
0 14=8 14
0 15=9 15
0 16=10 16
0 18=11 18
0 20=12 20
0 22=13 22

 

[inetbogey]

which stick of mem is in the 1st. slot?

 

[gameman]

going from left to right, the first sick is 512m and the second is 1gig.

 

[blues_harp28]

Hi check link.
http://www.aumha.org/win4/a/memmgmt.php

"For systems with more than 1 GB of RAM, the defaults in Windows 98 or ME can cause continuous rebooting of the computer, or to hangs or serial reboots during the Windows upgrade process. To resolve this problem, add a MaxPhysPage=40000 entry in the [386enh] section of SYSTEM.INI. This effectively limits the amount of RAM Windows can access to 1 GB. (Microsoft limits ths recommendation to systems having more than 1.5 GB of RAM, but the solution is to roll it back to 1 GB. See MSKB 304943.) Microsoft has now flatly stated that, “Windows Me and Windows 98 are not designed to handle more than 1 GB or RAM. More than 1 GB can lead to potential system instability.”

 

[gameman]

Hmm I have tried MaxPhysPage=40000 30000 and even 20000 (512mb). It is odd as I know the same settings have worked for others. :/ Any other suggestions?

 

[Blue Zee]

Try

MaxFileCache=524288 (instead of 65536)

 

[gameman]

Tried it, still no go

 

[inetbogey]

Does win 2000 see the whole 1.5 Gigs?

 

[gameman]

Yes.

 

[inetbogey]

how far into the Bootup do you get? does it show you that it loads 64 K and then the extended memory?
if you get to the start menu can you do a "step by step" startup?

 

[inetbogey]

i think what i am after is the config.sys file. does it load? if you do a step by step you can see if it runs and at what line it brings up the error. i think the system.ini file is OK. (my paging file is set to 2048000 about 2 * my ram)

 

[dvk01]

98 is very fussy about matched memory as well & often can't read unmatched memory

depending on the bios settings in your computer I have found that 98 often won't see the 1gb chip in slot 2 at all but would see 2 x 512 chips

you could try the 1gb in slot1 & 512 in slot 2 & see if that makes a difference

does 98 boot ok with just the 1gb in slot 1 & nothing in slot 2

 

[Frank4d]

Run MSCONFIG and on the General tab make sure "Process SYSTEM.INI File" is checked.

 

[gameman]

I don't get that far into the bootup, it seems to hang a few seconds before the "windows98" splash screen then a microsecond later I get the memory error. Safemode does not work of course. And I know it is set to process the system.ini file. I haven't tried switching the memory around as it was very tight fit in the first place and I want to try everything else possible first. I will do a step by step bootup in a minute and report back.

Also it must be seeing the 1gig stick as it was running fine with just the 512mb stick. When I added the 1gig stick that is when the problems started

 

[gameman]

Sorry for my delayed response. I did finally manage to get into Win98. The settings that worked are MaxPhysPage=40000 and MaxFileCache=64000. The strange thing is I had tried REM MaxFileCache=65535 and that hadn't worked. Also the first time I tried these settings it didn't, then I ran a step by step confirmation and it booted! And I know I had all of the options checked (config, autoexc, etc) in msconfig for boot. Also it boots fine every time now. The only problem I am having is occasionally getting a out of memory error. For example Winclam has this problem when trying to do a update or scan.