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Windows updates unsafe?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by foxfire, Oct 16, 2003.

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  1. foxfire

    foxfire Malware Specialist Thread Starter

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    I run Windows XP SP1. In the past I read an old thread where
    ACA CANDY stated that she did not update because primarily they caused more problems than they did good.
    I hope that I have not misquoted her:D :D :D

    Query. Is it now safe to update please?


    Foxfire
     
  2. HexStar

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    It's always been safe. Updates only make your computer better and have never been harmful. I think you may have misunderstood AcaCandy.
     
  3. MysticEyes

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    Safer, but far from better. Most of these updates are 'security' patches, which have nothing to do with making your rig run better. This is something you will have to decide on your own. Updates have, and will cause problems for some.
     
  4. mobo

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    I would personally recommend alll security patches for one thing..
     
  5. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    I think you assume facts not in evidence! :rolleyes: Updates are NOT always safe, and doing updates has rendered more than one machine inert after the experience. In general, it's a good idea to keep up with the security patches, but it's not a risk-free process. I suggest regular image backups of your environment, especially before you turn Microsoft loose on your machine. :)
     
  6. mobo

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    Ditto..
     
  7. GPaDavis

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    I simply don't trust M$, given their history on patches: slow downs, instability, crashes, data wipe outs, and on and on it goes.

    Have been runniing Xp Home since it first came out -- NO PATCHES. Do use ZoneAlarm firewall, keep up with Gibson's safeguards, e.g., "Kill the Messenger", "DCOMBobulator", etc. Haven't had a single virus, worm infection, or whatever. My Xp OS still working fast, stable and no problems with applications so far. Attribute this to staying away from M$ patches! Often they produce a patch to cure one problem and . . . TOO LATE, the new patch opens the door to some other type worm or virus!

    Do have one problem, tho. Started two years ago with 20GB HD and quickly found that that is simply too small, given the over weight apps that Xp requires. Other than that all seems well.

    FWIW,
    Bob
     
  8. Cdn Cowgirl

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    I too have my misgivings about patches, etc., and ususally wait a a bit prior to installing them to see if others experience problems. BUT and a big one at that.... Two days ago we installed a new out of the box XP PC on our network at the office. Went online to download the XP updates.... that afternoon our network/internet/email was mucked up. Two days of troubleshooting with our internet provider.... and found that the instant this new PC connected to the net, downloaded the Natchi virus which was playing havoc with our system. Go figure the timing on that! Anyway, all is repaired and working at this point!!!

    Cowgirl
     
  9. GPaDavis

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    Cowgirl,
    Even a new Xp's firewall is not all that great, I understand. So you'd be better off with something like ZoneAlarm or equivalent. They're far superior to what M$ offers. I've been using the free version for year's, regularly updated, of course. When the MSBlaster worm first hit the 'net, I experienced hundreds of attempts to penetrate port 135 in one day's time! None succeeded. But I also had Gibson's (grc.com) "DCOMbulator", which offers a good degree of protection against such attacks.

    Please understand, I'm by no means any kind of techie expert so my experiences are just my own. Until I see evidence of real gains with the "security" patches, they'll never appear on my computer.

    Bob
     
  10. foxfire

    foxfire Malware Specialist Thread Starter

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    Wow! some pretty strong opinions there from some very experienced sources.
    Thank you all for your helpful inputs I am now of the belief that I am far safer staying on SP1 & maintaining my own safeguards.
    GPaDavis- I will try Gibsons thank you.

    Foxfire
     
  11. JohnWill

    JohnWill Retired Moderator

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    With XP, you can always roll back to an earlier restore point if a patch "does you dirty". However, I make a GHOST backup once a week and keep the last four copies. I've had to use them several times, once for a Microsoft update. :D
     
  12. bassetman

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    I have had update problems before too!
     
  13. KeithKman

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    I only get the Critical Updates.
     
  14. MysticEyes

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    The smaller critical updates never seem to cause any problems.
     
  15. Bryan

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    I've only had one instance where an update caused problems and the PC was running XP, so a simple system restore fixed it. And the update was a driver update from the Windows Update site. Since then, I don't install the driver updates from the Windows Update site but I always install any critical updates. For driver updates, I usually go to the hardware manufacturers site and get them from there or I ignore them completely if the PC is working fine with no problems.
     
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