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The driver updates are the Kiss of Death, I forgot about that little fiasco! Good typ Bryan, NEVER use the drivers from Windows Update! If it says it has updated drivers go to the source. :) I didn't have to restore to fix that, but it was several hours of screwing around for a simple modem driver on a client's machine.
 

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It's a good idea to update the security updates and other critical updates, PROVIDING YOU READ THE bumph about them first, and ONLY apply those that affect you directly.

A home user has no need of the updates that cure a security problem with INTERACTIVE logons which is M$ quaint way of saying sitting in front of the machine and typing.

Those sort of updates only cure a minimal risk to public access machines such as offices where you only want one particular user to use a computer and are trying to avoid others. Saying that if anyone has physical access to a machine and enough time, NOTHING will stop them getting in to it.

JUst be sensible, never download driver updates from M$ update always use the manufacturers site and make a restore point first with XP and only do one at a time, then if there is a problem you can restore
 

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Oh oh, I'm being quoted :D

This thread was just pointed out to me via PM and I'll just post the same thing I sent in the PM (by the way, you linked another forum, so I did a search on your user name and found this one :D )

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I'm behind a router right now, but as recent as May and June, I was not, just on dialup with 98 FE and no updates, I've never had a virus on my computer, of course, I receive e-mail infested ones. I don't run my virus program at all times, I download any questionable email to a folder on my desktop, then go update my virus program, and run it on that file folder only. If the file is of importance to me and I know it's coming, I usually do that on the same day.....if however it is a forward of a forward of a forward, etc. I may leave it sit there for a day or two, as we all know the virus scanners aren't updated immediately, and I figure anyone that lazy doesn't need an immediate, hahaha that was funny reply anyway

Just installed XP home, it came with SP 1 already, so didn't have a choice in that one, but I have XP running on another machine while being reminded there's 28 or more updates....must find a registry hack to turn that irritant reminder off

Hopefully I've helped you. I obviously don't practice what I preach on the forums

Have a great day!

Candy

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And I DO AGREE WITH BRYAN, A fiend did the ide controller update a long time back, what a mess that was.....I'm sure Bryan is remembering that one :p
 
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I like Bryans advice the best. I never DL any drivers. I've leearned from experience. But so far I havent had any problems with the critical updates (that I want). I get all the security updates tho. Haven't had any problems since.:D

Just look at what's there and you decide. :confused:

Prospect :)
 

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Originally posted by dcramer:
Windows Update has always been safe

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Are you kidding? I've personally seen a number of problems created by using Windows Updates, and their driver updates are usually the worst offenders!

I'm glad I don't use your "Professional" computer help if you actually believe that.

BTW, why is it you have a quote that says you removed the link because of the forum rules, but the link remains? :rolleyes:
 

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john, I removed the links I saw, I left the forum link, the other one was an advertising of services....actually both times I clicked on the forums link, it didn't work anyhow :rolleyes:

Just thought I'd clear that up ;)
 

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Have just re discovered this old thread whilst searching for something else...It certainly drew the Big Names out of the box!
Some excellent advice thank you..I was certainly unaware of the dubious quality of Windows drivers (Now written in blood in my notebook) & only download the critical security patches(One at a time).
Thank you I am sure others can learn from this too.

Foxfire.
 

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Thank you M*aam.I treat your advice seriously!

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Originally posted by johnwill:
Are you kidding? I've personally seen a number of problems created by using Windows Updates, and their driver updates are usually the worst offenders!

I'm glad I don't use your "Professional" computer help if you actually believe that.
I realize this is an old posting, however it was in top of list and happened to read it and thus feel like throwing my opinions in the mix. :)

All the 'self-proclaimed' experts online whom spout off about this conspiracy or that as far as Microsoft is concerned are the "Professionals" or "Experts" that I roll my eyes at. No matter what your opinions are of Microsoft, the fact remains that they created a superior operating system and because of that simple fact have obviously become the biggest target for "hackers and viruses" attacking vulnerabilities. You cannot argue (reliably anyway) that.

With that said, no, I do not install many, if any, because I do not like messing with the cluttering in my Programs listing or computer in general. However, I would not go as far as to say that installing any of the updates or security patches are UNSAFE because that would be quite ridiculous and quite frankly, anyone who believes that should not even bother calling themselves a "professional" or "expert".

To the average end-user, I would still recommend installing them because most users out there do not know how to protect themselves properly...nor get the computer to be cleaned and running efficiently.

To the more dangerous end-users who actually know a few things, I would suggest installing only the ones that they want or feel are necessary.

To everyone: I would recommend running a fully functional and frequently updated virus scanner (if you don't want to pay then get one of the free ones out there) and protect yourself online with some type of firewall, whether it be software or hardware. If everyone did that, there would be virtually no need for the security patches and updates.

Enough said. Cheers :)
 
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The only time I ever used a Driver update from MS---my cam {logitech} quit working. Critical Up-dates only--and wait to see if their a problem. What other choice do we have??
 
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For updates on drivers it is best to go to the manufacturers website..
 
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Originally posted by Fidelista:
The only time I ever used a Driver update from MS---my cam {logitech} quit working. Critical Up-dates only--and wait to see if their a problem. What other choice do we have??

Generally, they don't cause problems... or... if they do it is easily solved by reinstalling the drivers/software that comes with a device such as a net cam or other external device.

"Critical" updates are somewhat over-exaggerated. Again, if everyone protected themselves with a firewall and updated virus scanning software, then they would all be a moot point. Since this isn't the case, and since MS Windows is the most widely used operating system platform out there, naturally there are going to be exploits to certain vulnerabilities. Not because MS is a terrible software designer, but because in this lovely world we live in there are far too many people out there looking to cause trouble....and with such a large percentage of users and businesses using Windows, it's the natural choice for attacking.

Give it time... when Linux (or OS X for that matter) become more popular and have a larger end-user or, more specifically -- larger BUSINESS presence... hackers will find security holes there as well. But for now.....why attack something that only accounts for a small percentage of computers world-wide?
 
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