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XP Program running in Startup vs. Services

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by nickg, Feb 8, 2005.

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  1. nickg

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    XP made it more confusing with what you can/should/don't need to run.

    what's the difference between what's in your Startup and what's in Services running and what would be safe/not safe to either delete or close?

    thanks.
     
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  3. nickg

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    after seeing everything involved with "Services" and the gyrations you have to go through it may actually be more trouble than it's worth. thanks for the link though.
     
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    Startup is just programs you want running when you turn on your computer (IM client, e-mail client, web browser, etc.)

    Services are system things that need to be constantly running in the background. (firewalls, webservers, anti-virus, etc)
     
  5. nickg

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    so it's probably best just to leave all this alone i would say, right?
     
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    Leave the services alone, but you can tweak with the startup a bit.
     
  7. nickg

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    yeah, i have no problem with programs in the Startup menu. i was just curious about Services.

    here's a question though. i downloaded a utility and wasn't impressed with what it did so i dumped the program. but it's still in the startup menu. how the heck can i get rid of it from Startup. i don't see any folders or files for it unless it's buried in the registry somewhere. would that affect it still being in the Startup menu?
     
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    What utility was this?
     
  9. nickg

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    BySoft FreeRAM
     
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    Better to put more RAM in the computer.
     
  11. nickg

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    i got 512 mb. that's all it can take unfortunately.

    in regards to FreeRAM in the startup program. i see it in the msconfig Startup but don't see in any other utility that allows me to get into Startup. so what's the deal with that? :confused:
     
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    Black Viper's site has the lowdown on services. That is a good place to go.

    If you really want to know what makes a difference to performance I would trial Diskeeper 9 Professional (not Home) (30 day) and, if you are running on NTFS, make sure that the Master File Tables are the right size with Frag-Shield. I had to pad out (make bigger) the MFTs on all four drives and then reset the MFT on drive C: manually. It was 99% full and causing fragmentation and poor performance.

    DK9 Pro will defrag the drive in the background and with 512Mb of RAM this shouldn't be a problem.

    Then you can do a boottime defrag running checkdisk at the same time, and defrag the paging file and MFTs. As long as you have 4096 bytes per allocation unit (4k clusters) you should see a dramatic increase in performance and reliability.

    See the NTFS Performance link below.

    It is probably a stuck entry in msconfig. Can you see it in the SpyBot start-up list?

    Have you tried RegCleaner 4·3?
     
  13. nickg

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    i do not see it in any of the listings of any utilities i run that shows the startup list...only in the msconfig startup list. that's what i dont understand.

    i've been running Diskeeper Pro but i only have a few more days left on my evaluation.

    as far as registry cleaners, i'm using CCleaner.
     
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    The items might be present in any of these locations in the registry:

    [HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    [HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]

    -and-

    [HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows]
     
  15. nickg

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    i looked in the registry but there is always the chance that i overlooked a key. i'll check again and see what i can see. thanks.
     
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