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XP <> W7 question

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Noyb, Nov 9, 2011.

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  1. Noyb

    Noyb Trusted Advisor Spam Fighter Thread Starter

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    Back in the good ole days ..
    It was recommended that if you used XP a lot , You should perform a fresh install often.
    I usually did this about once a year, and each time, I could “feel” a definite improvement.

    I still use XP as my workhorse computer and don’t boot to W7 very often.

    My question is ..
    Does W7 get "dirtied" up by usage like XP .. And should one perform a fresh install frequently ??
     
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    I for one use my Windows 7, which I installed back in 2010, August if I remember correctly. Everything is neat and clean so far, keeping it updated and shiny, not even thinking about a fresh install :)
     
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    Any OS will get cluttered with junk and remnants of uninstalled programs, etc. I don't see why it would be any different with Windows 7. I have not had to do it on my home computer yet, but it has only been in service less than a year.
     
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    It would take weeks for me to reinstall everything on my primary computer (100+ programs). I only do it when I get a new computer every 2-3 years.

    I avoid the clutter/junk problem by using virtual system for testing or playing with new applications.
     
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    Like DoubleHelix said, the hassle of getting everything back the way I want it trumps any speed increase I might notice.

    My Windows 7 machine is running perfectly fine, just have to make sure it doesn't get cluttered with too much junk.
     
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    I can do it in about 20 minutes .. I keep an Acronis Image of my latest "Fresh Install"
    Recover the last Fresh Install .. Update it while it's still fresh ... And Image it for the next time.
    I never backup a working system for the reasons mentioned

    Actually, My next Fresh install is already built .. And setting in Disc 1 and 6.
    Just not enough time on the working system to know if the Fresh systems are better.
     

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    It's not a race to the bottom, Noyb. Clearly you and I use computers very differently. With 100+ programs installed, I'm updating something at least every week. A "Fresh Install" image, by your standards, would need to be created over 50 times a year.
     
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    I have a 10 year old XP Pro installation on a laptop that has NEVER been reinstalled...even across two hard drive failures that have happened in that time, and it runs as fast as it ran the day it was new. It has traveled with me to 3 continents and has seen heavy usage over that time...including a fair amount of usage by my children.

    The idea that any OS needs to be reinstalled in order to clean it up is promulgated by those who don't know how to do routine system maintenance along the way, and who always do default installs of software rather than taking the time to do a manual install and uncheck the installation of all the cruft and crap.

    Just take charge of what programs are allowed to start with the system, restrict the running services to the ones you need, defrag the hard drive periodically, clean out the temp folders, don't install all those junk toolbars, and you'll be fine.
     
  9. Noyb

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    That's part of my question .. How self cleaning is W7
    How much detrimental dirt is collected/created by a bunch of small updates vrs one bigger update/upgrade ..
    And removing a program and replacing it with one that works better a few times.

    Have you ever performed a fresh install to compare how it "feels" to the old one ??
     
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    LOL. I don't need to. I know what is running in it, and I know what sort of shape it is in. I also find myself using a LOT of different computers over time, including some very high-end stuff, so I have plenty of things to compare it to.

    As far as that goes, it's 10 years old and I still use it routinely - and it is reliable and as fast as it ever was. The only reason I'm contemplating replacing it is I can't run some of the latest software on it, and I pretty much have to do that.

    Actually, I also have a 12 year old Windows 2000 virtual machine. Well, it didn't start as a virtual machine, but I virtualized it in 2003 when I abandoned my dual-boot scheme (win2K and linux) and went to full Linux, and I have used it that way ever since.

    I use it daily. There is a lot of business software on it that is peculiar to my business, and I have never seen the need or had the desire to modernize it. Works fine. And has NEVER been reinstalled, ever.
     
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    I think that it's too soon to tell, Noyb. My 32-bit Windows 7 has been installed for two years and the 64-bit one for almost 1 1/2 years. They both still "feel" OK except for some increased boot time, which I know is because of start-up programs I have allowed. For me XP stayed "good" for at least two years and I installed fresh only after three or four years.
     
  12. Noyb

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    Just got This in my Email.
    I wonder if they were reading my mind .. or this Forum ??

    It says ... "These results make it clear that Windows 7 can indeed benefit from use of cleanup tools"

    They're also talking Reg cleaning ..
    Other than basic CCleaner cleaning .. The only deep cleaning tool I'll ever use is a fresh install ..
    Or at least have a fresh install waiting .. Just in case
     
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